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light3We are so engrossed
with the objects,
or appearances
revealed by 
the light,
that we pay
no attention
to the light.

Ramana Maharishi

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“Q: Do I know myself through the mind, or is it independent of the mind?

Bob: The only instrument we have is the mind. So, it has to be understood that you can never grasp it with the mind. Because it contains the mind; the mind can never contain it.

Q: What about the feeling or the thought ‘I am”?

B: That is the  primarily thought from which all dualism appears. As soon as there is ‘I am’, there must be ‘you’ or ‘the other’. That idea ‘I am’ is the cause of all seeming problems. That sense of presence is expressing itself through the mind, but prior to that thought, you know that you are, don’t you? You are not thinking ‘I am’ constantly all the time, are you? You know that you are sitting there. You are aware of being present, continually.

Q: What about the when I am in deep sleep? I am not aware.

B: The mind is in abeyance in deep sleep, but that effortless functioning is still going on. The mind is not there. That functioning is still breathing you. It is  still causing the blood to flow around through the body. The fingernails continue to grow. All these do not stop because the mind is not there.

Consciousness, or the mind, stirs in that deep sleep, and you start to dream before you are awake. In this dream you create a world, and you see yourself taking an active part in it. It might be in a town, a city, a room or out in the country. You can dream of all sorts of things. There can be other people there. There could be cars, animals or anything, and you see yourself taking an active part. Yet, that body has not moved from the bed. All of this seeming world has been taking place in that little space between your ears. If you continued on from the night before just as it appears to do in the waking state, could you tell the difference between the dream state and the waking state?

So, is the world anything other than mind? What substance has the mind? What substance has a thought got? That ‘I am’ thought is what you believe yourself to be. Can the mind stand on it’s own? If you were not conscious, if that consciousness was not there, could you have a single thought?

Q: I don’t know!

B: Well, you just said that even in deep sleep, you were not aware o f it. No thoughts. The mind is dependent on consciousness or awareness or whatever you want to call it, that pure intelligence energy. So that must be primary, that must be the reality, not the ‘I am’ thought, not the ‘me’ as such.

Q: Is consciousness dependent on anything else?

B: That is also just a movement in awareness. All this world appears in that consciousness. All this world is the content of consciousness. So, it cannot be anything other than consciousness. There is nothing that you can think of, conceive of, perceive or postulate outside of consciousness. Even if  you are talking about other universes or other solar systems, the moment you think about or talk about them, you have brought them into consciousness. When that ‘thinking and talking’ consciousness is out of the road, there is that pure intelligence there. It just shines of itself.

Q: So is consciousness a part of the universal?

B: The whole thing is universal, if you look at it closely. No parts. Awareness, the absolute, consciousness, mind are one and the same thing in different aspects. Like with water: you have water vapour or steam, then the liquid state of water and then there is ice. These are three different aspects of the one thing, water. So, it still never changes from that non-dual one-without-a-second. Grasp that fact and stay with that. It does not matter what appears. It is still only the One. Then that sense of separation can no longer be there.”

 

Sailor Bob Adamson “What is wrong with right now, unless you think about it?”

 

“If the self-center, ego, or reference point is seen to have no substance or independent nature, it will be understood or known that whatever mental concept or image comes up naturally happens by itself, and instead of any need to discard or get rid of it, it can be a useful happening for the protection, assistance, or defense of the organism–like with an insect, animal, bird, or reptile not thinking about protection can naturally change color or grow patterns in the skin or fur to blend in with the environment around it… a natural camouflage comes about, without any attempt to change the appearance.

Likewise with humans: without belief in a self-center, anything, including mental concepts, change or action can come about naturally to suit whatever situation arises.

However, if the self-center, ego, or reference point is believed to be something substantial with an independent nature of it’s own–an existing ‘me’ or an ‘I’–then whatever arises is referred to this ‘me’ and, instead of being a natural functioning, it occurs as a contrived state, such as fear, anxiety, stress, etc., because that entity, being non-existent, cannot live up to what is imagined. And even when hearing about non-conceptual natural functioning, still believing in a reference point, useless and contrived attempts continue to be made to live up to or recreate some concept of that.

Thus, there appears to be a great difference between natural functioning without any belief in a reference point, and the imagined, conceptual, acquired mental habits caused by the old belief in a separate entity“.

Sailor Bob Adamson

 

Emptiness, suffused with intelligence (knowing), can be a useful pointer or description, but remember–the description can never be the described. It is a valuable pointer only if in looking or seeing there is a recognising of the actuality of this natural emptiness.

Every thing comes from, appears in, and returns to this natural emptiness. The coming and going of things is transience, but the cognising emptiness, being empty, does not come and go. Being empty, it is of itself no thing. It can never be filled or emptied of things, for things appearing in emptiness have no independent nature of themselves, and so in reality things are the same emptiness–appearing as other. Every thing perceived is emptiness.

There can only be a problem if things–including the so called ‘seer’–are believed to be other than this natural emptiness“.

Sailor Bob Adamson

 

 

 

 

” Learn to live without self concern. For this you must know your own true being as indomitable, fearless, ever victorious. Once you know with absolute certainty that nothing can trouble you but your own imagination, you come to disregard your desires and fears, concepts and ideas, and live by truth alone.”

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

A beautiful talk on nonduality with Sailor Bob Adamson.

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Q: If happiness is not conscious and consciousness – not happy, what is the link between the two?

M: Consciousness being a product of conditions and circumstances, depends on them and changes along with them. What is independent, uncreated, timeless and changeless, and yet ever new and fresh, is beyond the mind. When the mind thinks of it, the mind dissolves and only happiness remains.

Q: When all goes, nothingness remains.

M: How can there be nothing without something: Nothing is only an idea, it depends on the memory of something. Pure being is quite independent of existence, which is definable and describable.

Q: Please tell us: beyond the mind does consciousness continue, or does it end with mind?

M: Consciousness comes and goes, awareness shines immutably.

Q: Who is aware in awareness?

M: When there is a person, there is also consciousness. ‘I am’, mind, consciousness denote the same state. If you say ‘I am aware’, it only means: ‘I am conscious of thinking and being aware. There is no ‘I am’ in awareness.

Q: What about witnessing?

M: Witnessing is the mind. The witness goes with the witnessed. In the state of non-duality all separation ceases.

I Am That – Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

“It is because you think yourself big enough to be affected by the world. You are so small that nothing can pin yourself down. It is your mind that gets caught, not you. Know yourself as you are – a mere point in consciousness, dimensionless and timeless. You are like the point of the pencil – by mere contact with you the mind draws its picture of the world. You are single and simple – the picture is complex and extensive. Don’t be misled by the picture – remain aware of the tiny point – which is everywhere in the picture.

What is, can cease to be; what is not, can come to be; but what neither is nor is not, but on which being and non-being depend, is unassailable; know yourself to be the cause of desire and fear, itself free from both.”

Excerpt from I Am That, Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

“Just realise you are dreaming a dream you call the world and stop looking for ways out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all or none of it and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs to be done.”
Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj