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“Q: Is there any way to stop this chatter?

Bob: No. Do you chatter? Understand and watch it. If you haven’t got a vested interest in it, what is going to happen? It is going to die down. You see, when the chatter starts and I attribute it to ‘me’ and ‘I want this’ or ‘I don’t like that’ or ‘He said so and so’ and ‘blah, blah, blah, blah’ – I have a vested interest in it. Now, in that vested interest what is happening? The energy of ‘I’ and ‘this’. The ‘I’ is a thought, and the ‘this’ is a thought. But that energy is opposed to itself. It is a dissipating energy. It is in conflict with itself. But if I understand that there is no centre here and that it is just chatter and I am aware of it, then there is no ‘me’ that wants anything out of it. There is nothing resisting it. It is just what is. Then there is no energy going into it.

Now can a thing live without energy? No! So, in the watching of it, in the awareness of it without bothering about it, in seeing it for what it is, that is false, it is going to die down of its own accord. So, there is no need to try and stop it. In trying to stop it, the mind will be in conflict with the mind. That will get you into all sorts of trouble, which it has done until now.

Q: How do we stop? I see that chatter but I am still giving it value?

Bob: Well, keep watching it and ask yourself who is this ‘me’ that is giving it value? Until it comes up that you see that this ‘me’ is only an idea. Where is this centre? Where does this so-called me start? Look and try and find a centre or a spot in your body which you believe is ‘me’, or in your mind which you believe is ‘me’. Look as hard as you like. If you can find it, you come and tell me! I know for certain that there is no particular place in this body or this mind of which I can say ‘This is where I begin’, ‘This is where it all starts’.

In your own looking you will find that the false cannot stand up to investigation. You are not the hand; you are not your ear; you are not your nose. There is no particular spot where you can say ‘This is where I began’. Have a look at the body. It started off as a single sperm and a single ovum, which were the essences of the food that you mother and father ate. Where is that cell? That would be the centre, that would be the start of it all, but that cell has doubled and redoubled and it is long gone.

From another angle, am I this mind? the mind is just composed of thought. Which particular thought am I? Am I this ‘I’ thought, but where is that ‘I’ thought if I am deeply asleep or unconscious? It is not there! That would be the finish of me if I was that ‘I’ thought. But the breathing is still happening; the functioning is still happening; there is  not centre there.

So when the chatter goes on and you see that there is no centre to attribute it to, then it must lose its hold. It becomes laughable!”

What’s wrong with right now, unless you think about it?  Talks with Sailor Bob Adamson

rmaharishiForgetfulness of your real nature is the real death;
remembrance of it is the true birth.
It puts an end to successive births.  Eternal life is then yours. 
How does the desire for eternal life arise?
Because the present state is unbearable.  Why?
Because, it is not your true nature.
Had it been your real nature, there would be no desire to agitate you.
How does the present state differ from your real nature?
Truly, you are spirit.
Human beings consider themselves limited and that is the root of the trouble. 
The idea is wrong.  In sleep there was no world, no ego and no trouble.
Something wakes up from that happy state and says “I”.
To that ego the world appears.
It is the rise of the ego that is the cause of the trouble.
But trace the ego to its origin, and you will reach that undifferentiated happy source,
a state which is sleepless sleep.
The Self is ever there;
wisdom only appears to dawn, though it is natural.
Conscious death and conscious immortality (while still in the flesh)
is the purpose of evolution.
Sri Ramana Maharshi


“Q: Do I know myself through the mind, or is it independent of the mind?

Bob: The only instrument we have is the mind. So, it has to be understood that you can never grasp it with the mind. Because it contains the mind; the mind can never contain it.

Q: What about the feeling or the thought ‘I am”?

B: That is the  primarily thought from which all dualism appears. As soon as there is ‘I am’, there must be ‘you’ or ‘the other’. That idea ‘I am’ is the cause of all seeming problems. That sense of presence is expressing itself through the mind, but prior to that thought, you know that you are, don’t you? You are not thinking ‘I am’ constantly all the time, are you? You know that you are sitting there. You are aware of being present, continually.

Q: What about the when I am in deep sleep? I am not aware.

B: The mind is in abeyance in deep sleep, but that effortless functioning is still going on. The mind is not there. That functioning is still breathing you. It is  still causing the blood to flow around through the body. The fingernails continue to grow. All these do not stop because the mind is not there.

Consciousness, or the mind, stirs in that deep sleep, and you start to dream before you are awake. In this dream you create a world, and you see yourself taking an active part in it. It might be in a town, a city, a room or out in the country. You can dream of all sorts of things. There can be other people there. There could be cars, animals or anything, and you see yourself taking an active part. Yet, that body has not moved from the bed. All of this seeming world has been taking place in that little space between your ears. If you continued on from the night before just as it appears to do in the waking state, could you tell the difference between the dream state and the waking state?

So, is the world anything other than mind? What substance has the mind? What substance has a thought got? That ‘I am’ thought is what you believe yourself to be. Can the mind stand on it’s own? If you were not conscious, if that consciousness was not there, could you have a single thought?

Q: I don’t know!

B: Well, you just said that even in deep sleep, you were not aware o f it. No thoughts. The mind is dependent on consciousness or awareness or whatever you want to call it, that pure intelligence energy. So that must be primary, that must be the reality, not the ‘I am’ thought, not the ‘me’ as such.

Q: Is consciousness dependent on anything else?

B: That is also just a movement in awareness. All this world appears in that consciousness. All this world is the content of consciousness. So, it cannot be anything other than consciousness. There is nothing that you can think of, conceive of, perceive or postulate outside of consciousness. Even if  you are talking about other universes or other solar systems, the moment you think about or talk about them, you have brought them into consciousness. When that ‘thinking and talking’ consciousness is out of the road, there is that pure intelligence there. It just shines of itself.

Q: So is consciousness a part of the universal?

B: The whole thing is universal, if you look at it closely. No parts. Awareness, the absolute, consciousness, mind are one and the same thing in different aspects. Like with water: you have water vapour or steam, then the liquid state of water and then there is ice. These are three different aspects of the one thing, water. So, it still never changes from that non-dual one-without-a-second. Grasp that fact and stay with that. It does not matter what appears. It is still only the One. Then that sense of separation can no longer be there.”


Sailor Bob Adamson “What is wrong with right now, unless you think about it?”

buddha_smile” The hearing is happening through the ear. The ear is not telling me, I hear. Again it’s translated by thought, I hear. So the eye is not telling me I see and the ear is not telling me I hear, but the thought comes up and translates it. Now ask yourself this: Can the thought, I see, actually see? Look closely and you’ll realise that the thought is not seeing. Can the thought, I hear, actually do the hearing? All the thought is doing is translating. This ego is thought up and has no power to see, to hear or to be aware. The thought, I choose, can’t choose. The thought, I’m aware, is not your awareness.

So this fictitious ego is an idea to which we have been in bondage for all these years. The belief that it is an entity that can choose has self-will, self-awareness,  is having bad luck, etc, is just a thought. In the seeing that it’s a fiction, what’s going to happen then? Isn’t the natural livingness going to carry on the way it’s been carrying on anyway? It’s breathing you, it’s beating your heart, it’s growing your hair and fingernails, digesting your food, replacing cells, causing the thinking, feelings, emotions and everything to happen quite effortlessly.

If all the functioning is not being related to a me, then what’s the problem? Is good or bad a problem unless it’s related to an entity that thinks it should be some other way? It doesn’t mean to say problems won’t come up. They’ll come up, sure, because as in natures the pair of opposites are constantly functioning, but when they are coming up, they are seen for what they are. With un-fixated awareness,they move on. When we’re fixating on something, clinging to something, attaching to something, it keeps it there. There’s a resistance going on and it’s not free to move.

That’s why we say that all our problems come from the belief in a separate entity. See that it was never real and  you realise things have just happened that way.”


“Sailor” Bob Adamson simplifies it once again.

simplicity” Another thing we say is that you won’t find the answer in the mind, so it’s pointless looking there. In looking, is there any place that is outside of the mind? Every direction  you look in is always in the mind. When  you realise that you can’t get out of the mind by looking, what must happen? Wouldn’t there just be a natural full stop? In that full stop, the thought is paused for a brief moment. In that pause, when there’s no thought going on, you haven’t stopped seeing, you haven’t stopped hearing, you haven’t disappeared and you haven’t fallen apart. When there’s no conceptualizing going on, no thinking, you are prior to the mind. And that’s how simple it really is.”

Sailor Bob Adamson

“Q: You said that everybody you met has garbage, so I gave up hope.

P: But I said throw away the garbage. Did you do it?

Q: No.

P: So you’re right; there is no hope.  Hope itself is garbage. Expectation is garbage. Expectation to become something else at a  later date is a basket of garbage in your head. If you don’t want to throw it away, if you like it, then keep it. We need someone to  do this job also. Every city needs people to remove the garbage. Since I said throw away the garbage, and you have not thrown, you must like this profession.

Q: I don’t like it.

P: But you said there no hope of throwing away the garbage. What does it mean? If you like garbage, you are garbage. You become what you think. If you think of garbage, you become garbage. At the time you are thinking garbage, at that time, who are you? Who you should be? If you think of garbage at that time, what do you smell all around?

Q: Garbage

P: Garbage, yes. You will be so accustomed to garbage you will live in the garbage dump itself. You will not like to go out of the garbage. This manifestation is garbage. When you give rise to a thought, you invite garbage, and you must suffer. This thought is garbage. When you give rise, all the garbage is manifested suffering, and death manifests.

Don’t give rise to a thought, and tell me. Don’t just listen. This must be experienced. Don’t give rise to this thought “I am so and so”. Don’t give rise to this thought I, and tell me where you are. Don’t think; just do it, and tell me. Where now?

Q: Nowhere

P: In nowhere do you smell garbage?

Q: No

P: So stay there in nowhere, and what is the problem here?

Q: It’s a problem that I can’t find any difficulty.

P: Go deeper and tell me again. Look underneath. It is fathomless. Go down deeper and tell me. Don’t think. Thinking is garbage. Go deeper.  You said the problem is that there is no problem. Go deeper below this and see.

Q: I am free.

P: Free of problems and free of no problems.

So what have you done to be free? Look within yourself and what do you see? Don’t look here and there or nowhere. Then this look is no-look. this look is consciousness it self. Where there is no there and no here and no where, this is consciousness itself, from where everything arises and falls.

Everything arises and everything falls. And you are not touched. These manifestations, destructions, dissolutions – you are not touched, not affected in the least. This manifestation is a painting in the emptiness. Can you paint a picture in space? This is a picture, called manifestation, painted into the empty space.

So when you look within, this picture has never been painted. Nobody can ever paint a picture in empty space. You need some wall on which to paint, some canvas on which to paint, some screen on which to paint.

Become the screen and see this painting of manifestation. Actually nothing ever existed. Nothing is still existing. Nothing will exist. This is the ultimate truth, and just by losing I, it is realized.

What is the difficulty? You are not to go anywhere. Simply keep quiet and question. “Who am I? Where am I? What do I want?” And you get the answer instantly.

Once you know, you cannot get out of it. Everywhere you move, you move in consciousness. Before, the levels were different, from unconsciousness to unconsciousness. You were getting lost.

Consciousness alone is, and nothing ever exists beyond this consciousness. Once having known it, you become one with consciousness. There is not subject and no object. there is no experience, and none experienced. This is called freedom from everything.

This the moment, this instant, we are speaking about. I believe you are in the instant. If there is any problem, ask me.

I want you to enter directly into experience and not to understand intellectually. This intellect takes the form of what you think, and you may be cheated again. Everything that you think, that thought manifests.

Once upon a time, you had thought about it, and there it is! Great luck!

Totally conscious is I. All this is I. All the I‘s are within this I. This is total I, in which past, present and future appear.”

excerpt from Papaji Wake Up and Roar by HWL Poonja

“Have you seen the mind, really? It ‘s a ghost. It doesn’t really exist. As soon as you desire something, this ghost of a mind arises. If you desire anything, then this ghost of the mind will trouble you. Get rid of desire, and where is the mind?

Where there is desire, there is trouble. You can live very well without the mind. Without the mind, you are wise; with the mind, you are stupid. Desire nothing and you are emperor of this kingdom. You are peace, beauty, and love. Reject the mind for some time and see.

In the evening you go on the road; you see a snake and you are afraid. You pick up a stick and you beat it. It doesn’t move and you see it is a rope. Fear is gone and you throw away the stick.

If you address the mind with “Who are you?” it will disappear. Look at the snake of the mind and discover if it is real. Thoughts are impediments to seeing your own face. Don’t give rise to any thought, and discover who you are.”

Papaji Wake Up and Roar by HWL Poonja

” The trance of the mind starts with an unarisen thought. This thought then arises. Unarisen has to arise. What the wave was before was unarisen in the ocean.

So look at the unarisen wave. Waveless space. Look, before it arises, and nip the bud itself. I am asking you to not allow the wave to arise. Before the rise of the wave, it is unarisen thought. Thought has to arise, then arising, then trouble, right? It goes, and then another one comes. Unarisen, arising and then falling. This is the process of life. Realising this is checking the trance of the mind.

Right now, simply invite an unarisen thought. This is to see the den of the bandits, from where they will come to steal and break into your house. Bring up a thought now; invite an unarisen thought to come.(silence)

Now invite a thought. Have a thought come. this is checking the train of the mind. This is vigilance. This is watchfulness. This must be your habit! And this is a natural happiness also. It doesn’t cost you anything.

If you allow a thought to arise, you are in trouble. Then there is the cycle of endless troubles. If you are not vigilant it will arise, and this rise is called samsara.”

Papaji Wake Up and Roar by HWL Poonja


“Q: Something I don’t understand: Usually, in my life, I have a lot of energy to create things and do things. Now this is the second time I’ve come here. It’s like I’ve taken a drug – it’s nice, but the whole day I’m finished. Is all my energy and creativity just mind?

P: Yes! (enormous laughter)

Q: But I can’t lie in bed all day.

P: It’s your energy that brings you here, and when you get here, this same energy is quiet.

Q: But how am I going to do anything?

P: You will do wonderfully well by not doing! You simply stay quiet. Something else is going to take charge of you. You simply watch what happens, and you keep quiet.

You don’t keep quiet; therefore, you are in trouble. Just keep quiet, and let something arise from within: that peace you have never seen before. Keep quiet for some time, and it will reveal itself. This is my advice!”

Papaji Wake Up and Roar – HWL Poonja



Ribhu Gita Chapter 26, Verse 16-20

  1. Abide as That in which there are no Holy Scriptures or sacred books, no one who thinks, no objection or answer to it, no theory to be established, no theory to be rejected, nothing other than one Self – and be always happy, free from the least trace of thought.

  2. Abide as That in which there is no debate, no success or failure, no word or its meaning, no speech, no difference between the soul and the Supreme Being, none of the manifold causes and consequences – and be always happy, without the least trace of thought.

  3. Abide as That in which there is no need for listening, reflecting and practicing, no meditation to be practiced, no differences of sameness, otherness or internal contradictions, no words or their meanings – and be always happy, free from the least trace of thought.

  4. Abide as That in which there are no fears of hell, no joys of heaven, no worlds of the Creator God or the other Gods, or any object to be gained from them, no other world, no universe of any kind – and be always happy, without the least trace of thought.

  5. Abide as That in which there is nothing of the elements nor even an iota of their derivatives, no sense of “I” or “mind”, no fantasies of the mind, no blemish of attachment, no concept whatsoever – and be always happy, without the least trace of the thought.